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Zerolover says:
is it just me or is in the beggining where they show the map, that the UK is not part of the Brittanian empire, a BIT strange right?
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Posted on Sep - 20 - 2009 @ 4:26 am
D-L says:
Deja vu anyone? And hurrah and Hazzah! Zero is back!!!
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Posted on Sep - 27 - 2009 @ 4:36 pm
Shabonian says:
ya the UK is part of the EU
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Posted on Oct - 12 - 2009 @ 4:41 pm
darthminimall says:
No, because England was the ruler of the BRITISH EMPIRE. The British empire fell as it should have in history, the United States of America became an imperial nation, they called themselves Britania,
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Posted on Oct - 18 - 2009 @ 1:34 pm
Mirco says:
WTF!? Another one with Geass. Why do i get the feeling this is going to be something similar to Newtypes like in the gundam series.
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Posted on Nov - 03 - 2009 @ 3:19 pm
Paige says:
Actually it was because the American Revolution failed. They refer to it in series as ‘Washington’s rebellion’ in the series. The imperial family relocated on the North American contintant. While France overtook the homeland U.K.
So can’t be the USA in this series because it was pretty much strangled in it’s cradle in the geass universe.
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Posted on Jan - 03 - 2010 @ 5:36 pm
whaa?? says:
Why is suzku being such a poop! XP lol! ANOTHER WITH GEASS GREAT! X.x
Whaaa! Whaaaaaa! Please tell me…. what happened? My browser no working for this! *huddles in corner*
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Posted on Feb - 28 - 2010 @ 12:08 am
Snipe says:
Yeah, in one episode in the first season (in a lesson at Ashford, I think. Or in the museum, not sure…) it says, “Elizabeth the Third, after the loss at Waterloo, found herself surrounded by revolutionaries, and fled to the New World, which is now known as our homeland, Britannia.”
USA never existed, Britain is all of North and South America, and the UK is part of France. Wierd, but awesome. Pretty implausible, as it would involve France winning a major battle.
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Posted on May - 29 - 2010 @ 12:12 pm
Snipe says:
Oops, my bad, it was the loss at Trafalgar…
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Posted on May - 29 - 2010 @ 1:12 pm
nikolaibenenski says:
rolo has geass. there is no further point for this. i will not respond to any thing. it’ll be as if i never existed.
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Posted on Jun - 09 - 2010 @ 4:15 am
CaosBR says:
stop gueassing everyone weird guys with weird contracts and stuff! this way everyone is gonna end up with a geass!
wonder what would shirley do with her gueass had she one.
Origins:
The “Holy Empire of Britannia” traces its (cultural) origins back to Julius Caesar’s attempt to invade the British Isles in 55 BC. In Our Timeline, Caesar’s invasion failed but was followed up by a successful invasion by the emperor Claudius, but in the alternate Code Geass timeline, Caesar was met with strong resistance from the local tribes, who elect a super-leader: the Celtic King Eowyn, who summarily became the founder of the Britannian Imperial Family. The election of this super-leader and the repulsion of Caesar’s invasion would come to be considered year 1 of the Ascension Throne Britannia dating system, which is thus offset from the Anno Domini system by 55 years. However, the series is said to occur during 2017 a.t.b, which is roughly equivalent to 1962 AD.
The British Isles may not have remained independent from the Romans or if current royal family trace there lenaige back to Eowyn . It is not clear if the British Isles were also able to fight off the invasions by Germanic barbarians during the Dark Ages, i.e. if “Britannians” are descendants of “Anglo-Saxons”. In Our Timeline, the Germanic invasions pushed Celtic peoples to the mountainous fringes of the British isles, i.e. Wales and Scotland; thus if the Saxons never invaded in the Code Geass timeline, “Britannians” are ethnically Celtic. It is also not clear what effect the Viking invasions may have had, or if the conquest of the British Isles by the Normans under William the Conqueror actually happened.
Early Modern era:
The exact details of Britannia’s growth through the 17th century and the Age of Revolutions are only heard in bits and pieces.
In Our Timeline, Queen Elizabeth I died childless as the last of the Tudor Dynasty. In the Code Geass timeline, while Elizabeth I remained unmarried, she bore a son whose father was never publicly identified. Potential fathers were Sir Robert Dudley, 1st Earl of Leicester; Sir Robert Devereux, 2nd Earl of Essex; and Sir Carl, Duke of Britannia — these men would use this knowledge to gain influence and power. Whatever his parentage, Elizabeth I’s son ascended the throne under the regnal name “Henry IX”, upon the death of his mother in 1603. Hentry IX’s ascension was said to mark the beginning of “The Golden Age of the Tudor dynasty.”
Britannia’s history started to drastically diverge from Our Timeline during the Age of Revolutions, starting with the failure of the American Revolution in the 1770s. The American War of Independence, officially known in the Code Geass timeline as “Washington’s Rebellion”, did not succeed in overthrowing Britannian rule because the Duke of Britannia bribed off Benjamin Franklin, awarding him the title of earl. Washington’s Continental Army suffered a crippling defeat at the Siege of Yorktown, and Britannia’s control of its North American colonies was secured.
Exactly what the global possessions of “Britannia” were at this time, relative to Our Timeline’s “British Empire”, is not clear. It is not certain if Britannia ever colonized the Indian Subcontinent (because China was expanding into it), or if Britannia was ever an active colonial power in Africa. Heading into the Age of Revolution, Britannia’s most imporant overseas possessions seem to have been in North America.
The Age of Revolution:
As the Age of Revolution reached its peak, many of the old monarchies in Europe were overthrown, but Henry X of Britannia retained an absolute monarchy. The greatest of these revolutions was the French Revolution, which eventually produced Napoleon Bonaparte. The Napoleonic Wars were the single great formative event which resulted in the creation of the “Holy Empire of Britannia”.
Napoleon decisively won the Battle of Trafalgar, and proceeded to successfully invade the British Isles, occupying London (in our timeline, the French invasion fleet suffered a crippling defeat at Trafalgar to British Admiral Nelson). Napoleon’s invasion of the British Isles advanced to the point that in 1807, Britannian Queen Elizabeth III had retreated to Edinburgh, where a local revolutionary militia arrested her and forced her to abdicate, ending the monarchy over the British Isles. This event became known as the “Humiliation of Edinburgh”.
However, Sir Ricardo von Britannia, Duke of Britannia, and his friend and subordinate, Sir Richard Hector, Knight of One, led Elizabeth III and her loyalist followers on a retreat to Britannia’s colonies in North America, establishing a capital on the east coast. In 1813, the childless Elizabeth III was on her deathbed, and so she nominated Sir Ricardo von Britannia as her successor upon her death. At this time, the new Britannian calendar system “Ascension Throne Britannia” (A.T.B.), dating back to the first Celtic king, is retroactively established. Although Napoleon had successfully conquered the British Isles, in conjunction with popular uprisings against the monarchy, his rule over Europe ran into popular discontent, culminating in his defeat at the Battle of Waterloo in 1821. Napoleon died on his way back to France from Waterloo, and it is rumored that he was poisoned by agents acting in accordance with Elizabeth III’s will. The result was that popular uprisings overthrew Napoleon’s imperial ambitions, and reformed the new Europe-spanning empire to keep it in line with the democratic ideals of the Age of Revolution. This would later grow into the “Euro Universe”, expanding to control all of Europe, Africa, and Russia, and for centuries would remain the bitter enemy of Elizabeth III’s followers that fled to North America.
Development and Expansion:
By the end of the Napoleonic Wars, “Britannians” were essentially the defeated remnants of the absolutist aristocracy of the British Isles who had retreated in disgrace to their colonial holdings in North America, after completely losing their original homeland. Even before the Napoleonic Wars, the Britannian aristocracy had utterly rejected all of the democratic reforms of the Enlightenment and Age of Revolution, embracing an old-style absolute monarchy dating back to the Tudor era. Their humiliating defeat and exile only further embittered the Britannians, resulting in them fully embracing a national ethos of revanchism. The modern “Britannian nation”, while geographically centered in North America like Our Timeline’s United States, is directly analagous to neither “Britain” nor “America”. The Britannians are an odd mix of Tories from North America (the pro-British colonials in the War of Independence) and imperial British aristocrats.
This small population of “Britannian” aristocrats, having retreated to North America, had reached a critical low point, and had a very small core population. They were determined, however, to rebuild their powerbase now in North America, and began an aggressive campaign of conquest. Having been pushed to the brink of extinction, the Britannians now saw international politics as a fight for survival, and they rapidly rebuilt themselves into a world-class power by dominating other territories and peoples in North America, and over the decades, South America as well. Each new conquered region was designated an “Area” and its indigenous popluation “Numbers” (named after their Area, i.e. people living in Area 11 are “Elevens”). Because the original core Britannian population was so small, they developed a very stratified and highly classist social hierarchy, in which an extremely small minority of “pureblood” Britannians (descendants of the original British aristocrats that fled to North America), ruled over “honorary Britannians” (who held a mid-level social position), and at the very bottom, the “Numbers” — conquered peoples who lived in segregated-like, near-slavery conditions.
During the second half of the 1800s, Charles Darwin proposed the Theory of Evolution, which was later appropriated for the philosophy of Social Darwinism: the idea that conflict and competition promote growth, and essentially, “might makes right” — those who conquer and subjugate others are justified in doing so, because it promotes their own survival. For the Britannians, who had struggled to claw their way back from the brink of extinction and over decades turned themselves into a world power again, Social Darwinism was the ultimate justification for their campaign for survival, conquest, and ultimately revenge.
The “Holy Empire of Britannia” utterly embraced Social Darwinism as not only their national ethos and mentality, but something akin to a national religion of sorts. Darwin became refered to as “Saint Darwin” etc. What was once an oppression of conquered peoples as a matter of survival and necessity became a systematically applied set of negative virtues. Essentially “reforming itself along Prussian lines”, Britannia’s entire society became dedicated to the military effort and further conquests.
By the time of the (unspecified) world wars in the mid-twentieth century, barely a century after a handful of British aristocrats had been driven to their North American colonial holdouts, the Holy Empire of Britannia had become one of the three global superpowers (the other two being their bitter enemy the Euro Universe, as well as the Chinese Federation).
By the early 21st century, from their homeland in North America, Britannia controlled both American continents, as well as (depending on if different versions from the manga do not contradict the main storyline) New Zealand, Hawaii, and the Philippines.
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Posted on Jan - 02 - 2011 @ 12:24 pm
Josh says:
Tooooo long for me to even want to read, (too the guy above me). But anyone notice how Kallen’s voice got lower than in the first season? And im curious on how he planned everything out with china in the first place, it makes no sense on how he was able to plan on them being there the moment he regained his memories, hes smart, but i dont think that even lelouch could forsee himself losing all memories to his father. Just a question ive wondered, and ive seen this 4 times and still failed to understand that 1 particular part.
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Posted on Jan - 23 - 2011 @ 7:22 pm
YUri says:
i dont even want to read it º_º|||
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Posted on Feb - 05 - 2011 @ 5:58 pm
:) says:
Psssssh. Buffering. >:(
ALSO! :3
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Posted on Mar - 29 - 2011 @ 9:15 pm
JBL says:
They might as well be giving out Geass for three easy payments of three dollars! :/ Well, not that I wouldn’t blame them. Geass is your all-around plot device!
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Posted on Mar - 29 - 2011 @ 9:37 pm
Snoop says:
Nina needs to die -_-
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Posted on Aug - 15 - 2011 @ 5:50 pm
Kiddo says:
full screen is too fuzzy and the size it is is too small
why can’t a find a good median?
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Posted on Aug - 28 - 2011 @ 8:59 pm
Kiley says:
SHITAKE!! ( substitute 4 sh**) All 3 have Geass?!?!?!?!?!?!
is it just me or is in the beggining where they show the map, that the UK is not part of the Brittanian empire, a BIT strange right?
Deja vu anyone? And hurrah and Hazzah! Zero is back!!!
ya the UK is part of the EU
No, because England was the ruler of the BRITISH EMPIRE. The British empire fell as it should have in history, the United States of America became an imperial nation, they called themselves Britania,
WTF!? Another one with Geass. Why do i get the feeling this is going to be something similar to Newtypes like in the gundam series.
Actually it was because the American Revolution failed. They refer to it in series as ‘Washington’s rebellion’ in the series. The imperial family relocated on the North American contintant. While France overtook the homeland U.K.
So can’t be the USA in this series because it was pretty much strangled in it’s cradle in the geass universe.
Why is suzku being such a poop! XP lol! ANOTHER WITH GEASS GREAT! X.x
U.S.J!? Wow, Zero what a powerful boy you are.
Someone tell me what happened?
Does Rollo have Geass?
Please tell me! My browser wont let me watch this…….
Whaaa! Whaaaaaa! Please tell me…. what happened? My browser no working for this! *huddles in corner*
Yeah, in one episode in the first season (in a lesson at Ashford, I think. Or in the museum, not sure…) it says, “Elizabeth the Third, after the loss at Waterloo, found herself surrounded by revolutionaries, and fled to the New World, which is now known as our homeland, Britannia.”
USA never existed, Britain is all of North and South America, and the UK is part of France. Wierd, but awesome. Pretty implausible, as it would involve France winning a major battle.
Oops, my bad, it was the loss at Trafalgar…
rolo has geass. there is no further point for this. i will not respond to any thing. it’ll be as if i never existed.
stop gueassing everyone weird guys with weird contracts and stuff! this way everyone is gonna end up with a geass!
wonder what would shirley do with her gueass had she one.
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ZERO IS SO BACK MAN YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I’M SO HAPPY YEAHHHHHHH MAN *STARTS TO COUGH*
great, its only the second episode and already someone wants to kill Zero.
Snipe you made my day with that last joke.
this is getting a little familiar.
not the old nightmare zero used
how many more people with geass
Origins:
The “Holy Empire of Britannia” traces its (cultural) origins back to Julius Caesar’s attempt to invade the British Isles in 55 BC. In Our Timeline, Caesar’s invasion failed but was followed up by a successful invasion by the emperor Claudius, but in the alternate Code Geass timeline, Caesar was met with strong resistance from the local tribes, who elect a super-leader: the Celtic King Eowyn, who summarily became the founder of the Britannian Imperial Family. The election of this super-leader and the repulsion of Caesar’s invasion would come to be considered year 1 of the Ascension Throne Britannia dating system, which is thus offset from the Anno Domini system by 55 years. However, the series is said to occur during 2017 a.t.b, which is roughly equivalent to 1962 AD.
The British Isles may not have remained independent from the Romans or if current royal family trace there lenaige back to Eowyn . It is not clear if the British Isles were also able to fight off the invasions by Germanic barbarians during the Dark Ages, i.e. if “Britannians” are descendants of “Anglo-Saxons”. In Our Timeline, the Germanic invasions pushed Celtic peoples to the mountainous fringes of the British isles, i.e. Wales and Scotland; thus if the Saxons never invaded in the Code Geass timeline, “Britannians” are ethnically Celtic. It is also not clear what effect the Viking invasions may have had, or if the conquest of the British Isles by the Normans under William the Conqueror actually happened.
Early Modern era:
The exact details of Britannia’s growth through the 17th century and the Age of Revolutions are only heard in bits and pieces.
In Our Timeline, Queen Elizabeth I died childless as the last of the Tudor Dynasty. In the Code Geass timeline, while Elizabeth I remained unmarried, she bore a son whose father was never publicly identified. Potential fathers were Sir Robert Dudley, 1st Earl of Leicester; Sir Robert Devereux, 2nd Earl of Essex; and Sir Carl, Duke of Britannia — these men would use this knowledge to gain influence and power. Whatever his parentage, Elizabeth I’s son ascended the throne under the regnal name “Henry IX”, upon the death of his mother in 1603. Hentry IX’s ascension was said to mark the beginning of “The Golden Age of the Tudor dynasty.”
Britannia’s history started to drastically diverge from Our Timeline during the Age of Revolutions, starting with the failure of the American Revolution in the 1770s. The American War of Independence, officially known in the Code Geass timeline as “Washington’s Rebellion”, did not succeed in overthrowing Britannian rule because the Duke of Britannia bribed off Benjamin Franklin, awarding him the title of earl. Washington’s Continental Army suffered a crippling defeat at the Siege of Yorktown, and Britannia’s control of its North American colonies was secured.
Exactly what the global possessions of “Britannia” were at this time, relative to Our Timeline’s “British Empire”, is not clear. It is not certain if Britannia ever colonized the Indian Subcontinent (because China was expanding into it), or if Britannia was ever an active colonial power in Africa. Heading into the Age of Revolution, Britannia’s most imporant overseas possessions seem to have been in North America.
The Age of Revolution:
As the Age of Revolution reached its peak, many of the old monarchies in Europe were overthrown, but Henry X of Britannia retained an absolute monarchy. The greatest of these revolutions was the French Revolution, which eventually produced Napoleon Bonaparte. The Napoleonic Wars were the single great formative event which resulted in the creation of the “Holy Empire of Britannia”.
Napoleon decisively won the Battle of Trafalgar, and proceeded to successfully invade the British Isles, occupying London (in our timeline, the French invasion fleet suffered a crippling defeat at Trafalgar to British Admiral Nelson). Napoleon’s invasion of the British Isles advanced to the point that in 1807, Britannian Queen Elizabeth III had retreated to Edinburgh, where a local revolutionary militia arrested her and forced her to abdicate, ending the monarchy over the British Isles. This event became known as the “Humiliation of Edinburgh”.
However, Sir Ricardo von Britannia, Duke of Britannia, and his friend and subordinate, Sir Richard Hector, Knight of One, led Elizabeth III and her loyalist followers on a retreat to Britannia’s colonies in North America, establishing a capital on the east coast. In 1813, the childless Elizabeth III was on her deathbed, and so she nominated Sir Ricardo von Britannia as her successor upon her death. At this time, the new Britannian calendar system “Ascension Throne Britannia” (A.T.B.), dating back to the first Celtic king, is retroactively established. Although Napoleon had successfully conquered the British Isles, in conjunction with popular uprisings against the monarchy, his rule over Europe ran into popular discontent, culminating in his defeat at the Battle of Waterloo in 1821. Napoleon died on his way back to France from Waterloo, and it is rumored that he was poisoned by agents acting in accordance with Elizabeth III’s will. The result was that popular uprisings overthrew Napoleon’s imperial ambitions, and reformed the new Europe-spanning empire to keep it in line with the democratic ideals of the Age of Revolution. This would later grow into the “Euro Universe”, expanding to control all of Europe, Africa, and Russia, and for centuries would remain the bitter enemy of Elizabeth III’s followers that fled to North America.
Development and Expansion:
By the end of the Napoleonic Wars, “Britannians” were essentially the defeated remnants of the absolutist aristocracy of the British Isles who had retreated in disgrace to their colonial holdings in North America, after completely losing their original homeland. Even before the Napoleonic Wars, the Britannian aristocracy had utterly rejected all of the democratic reforms of the Enlightenment and Age of Revolution, embracing an old-style absolute monarchy dating back to the Tudor era. Their humiliating defeat and exile only further embittered the Britannians, resulting in them fully embracing a national ethos of revanchism. The modern “Britannian nation”, while geographically centered in North America like Our Timeline’s United States, is directly analagous to neither “Britain” nor “America”. The Britannians are an odd mix of Tories from North America (the pro-British colonials in the War of Independence) and imperial British aristocrats.
This small population of “Britannian” aristocrats, having retreated to North America, had reached a critical low point, and had a very small core population. They were determined, however, to rebuild their powerbase now in North America, and began an aggressive campaign of conquest. Having been pushed to the brink of extinction, the Britannians now saw international politics as a fight for survival, and they rapidly rebuilt themselves into a world-class power by dominating other territories and peoples in North America, and over the decades, South America as well. Each new conquered region was designated an “Area” and its indigenous popluation “Numbers” (named after their Area, i.e. people living in Area 11 are “Elevens”). Because the original core Britannian population was so small, they developed a very stratified and highly classist social hierarchy, in which an extremely small minority of “pureblood” Britannians (descendants of the original British aristocrats that fled to North America), ruled over “honorary Britannians” (who held a mid-level social position), and at the very bottom, the “Numbers” — conquered peoples who lived in segregated-like, near-slavery conditions.
During the second half of the 1800s, Charles Darwin proposed the Theory of Evolution, which was later appropriated for the philosophy of Social Darwinism: the idea that conflict and competition promote growth, and essentially, “might makes right” — those who conquer and subjugate others are justified in doing so, because it promotes their own survival. For the Britannians, who had struggled to claw their way back from the brink of extinction and over decades turned themselves into a world power again, Social Darwinism was the ultimate justification for their campaign for survival, conquest, and ultimately revenge.
The “Holy Empire of Britannia” utterly embraced Social Darwinism as not only their national ethos and mentality, but something akin to a national religion of sorts. Darwin became refered to as “Saint Darwin” etc. What was once an oppression of conquered peoples as a matter of survival and necessity became a systematically applied set of negative virtues. Essentially “reforming itself along Prussian lines”, Britannia’s entire society became dedicated to the military effort and further conquests.
By the time of the (unspecified) world wars in the mid-twentieth century, barely a century after a handful of British aristocrats had been driven to their North American colonial holdouts, the Holy Empire of Britannia had become one of the three global superpowers (the other two being their bitter enemy the Euro Universe, as well as the Chinese Federation).
By the early 21st century, from their homeland in North America, Britannia controlled both American continents, as well as (depending on if different versions from the manga do not contradict the main storyline) New Zealand, Hawaii, and the Philippines.
Tooooo long for me to even want to read, (too the guy above me). But anyone notice how Kallen’s voice got lower than in the first season? And im curious on how he planned everything out with china in the first place, it makes no sense on how he was able to plan on them being there the moment he regained his memories, hes smart, but i dont think that even lelouch could forsee himself losing all memories to his father. Just a question ive wondered, and ive seen this 4 times and still failed to understand that 1 particular part.
i dont even want to read it º_º|||
Psssssh. Buffering. >:(
ALSO! :3
They might as well be giving out Geass for three easy payments of three dollars! :/ Well, not that I wouldn’t blame them. Geass is your all-around plot device!
Nina needs to die -_-
full screen is too fuzzy and the size it is is too small
why can’t a find a good median?
SHITAKE!! ( substitute 4 sh**) All 3 have Geass?!?!?!?!?!?!